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    Posted: 06 Rujan 2010 at 13:06
Originally posted by Iluvatar Iluvatar wrote:



samo ti pokušavam reci da je vrijeme do pocetka resorpcije wheya i kazeina u biti isto


E illy, jel imaš neki link za ovo? ak je tak ,onda cu i u pwm rješavat kazein jer ga mogu nabavit za jefinjaru
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Iluvatar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Rujan 2010 at 15:17
Imam vrlo pozdan izvor, a mogao bi se naci i link na neku studiju samo mi se ne da tražiti :P a izvor je lyle mcdonald

što se tice wheya... whey koncentrat se oko 3-4 sata resorbira tako da se može i preko 30 grama

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Ok, budem potražio za apsorbciju blabla.. 

e da, daj pocisti inbox jer ti je pun
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Originally posted by soner_9393 soner_9393 wrote:

Ok, budem potražio za apsorbciju blabla.. e da, daj pocisti inbox jer ti je pun


lol. sorry , riješeno
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sta onda ispada da je whey i kazein u biti isto. ja nekako nevirujen bas u to

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Originally posted by zmaj zmaj wrote:

sta onda ispada da je
whey i kazein u biti isto. ja nekako nevirujen
bas u to



Cudno malo.. Uvijek se govorilo da se whey
pije odmah iza treninga jer se odmah
apsorbira, a kazein npr. navecer jer se dugo
otpusta.. A mozda im je vrijeme do
zapocinjanja apsorbiranja jednako, ali vrijeme
otpustanja razlicito..
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Lyle Mcdonald

eto ga, to je to Illy?

..dakle i jedan i drugi ulaze u krvotok u relativno isto vrijeme, samo je razlika u dizanju razine aminokiselina gdje je whey u prednosti..

whey povecava sintezu proteina ali ne zaustavlja razgradnju, dok kazein radi obrnuto... zato kombinirajte jedno i drugo nakon treninga pa dobite oboje, ili whey uzmite prije treninga (ili tokom, dwm) pa kasnije npr. samo kazein...

tako ja to shvatih
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Pa po meni bi najbolje bilo whey iste minute kad zavrsi trening, a za
jedno 20-30min kazein.. Iako mislim da kazein ne treba, vec za nekih
45 min kruti obrok..
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Zoki Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Rujan 2010 at 11:33
Otvorio sam novu temu za ovu diskusiju!

Evo, pokrenuta je rasprava u temi o zobenim pahuljicama, da li se brže razgrađuje whey protein ili kasein.

Molim da se sva daljnja rasprava obavlja ovdje!
  

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a zašto bi ih odvajao?

..u slucaju da ti obrok nije u 45 min....nego nekih 2h nakon treninga...

ili ovo govoriš samo u slucaju tako brzog obroka nakon pwm-a?
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Komplicirate. Tokom treninga pijuckajte whey sa dextrozom i kad dođete doma, otuširate se i jedete kruti obrok 
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Evo bas kako je soner rekao..
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Ja nikada nisam pio PWM kao DWM.. mozda sad pocnem jer cu radit
trening snage.. Soner, koliko onda dexa i proteina stavis u shake ako
je i za DWM I PWM?
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Originally posted by soner_9393 soner_9393 wrote:

Komplicirate. Tokom treninga pijuckajte whey sa dextrozom i kad dođete doma, otuširate se i jedete kruti obrok 


Naravno da kompliciramo, da ne kompliciramo ovaj forum bi imao 80% manje tema

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Originally posted by Gym_girl Gym_girl wrote:

Originally posted by soner_9393 soner_9393 wrote:

Komplicirate. Tokom treninga pijuckajte whey sa dextrozom i kad dođete doma, otuširate se i jedete kruti obrok 


Naravno da kompliciramo, da ne kompliciramo ovaj forum bi imao 80% manje tema



Tako svi forumi funkcioniraju - svi kompliciraju!
A i uvijek se iz komplikacije dozna nešto novo.. tako da ponekad to dobro dođe.
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