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   <title>Masti u prehrani :       The Phoenix wrote:....tak...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2034">Gym_girl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3523<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15&nbsp;Ožujak&nbsp;2011 at 10:13<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by The Phoenix" alt="Originally posted by The Phoenix" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>The Phoenix wrote:</strong><br /><br />....tak d ami niej jasno kakvu ti ketoni kaj veli imaju ulogu i kak se oni stvaraju iz masti i pretvaraju u energiju.....jer mast se jedino pretvara u energiju u mitohondrijima uz prisutnost kisika u crobnom radu..</td></tr></table><br><br><br>Ketoni ti nastaju zbog nepotpune oksidacije masnih kiselina kojih btw. ima na bacanje zbog njihovog povecanog mobiliziranja iz masnih stanica. U normalnim uvjetima, znaci u uvjetima normalnog metabolizma UH-a energija se iz masti dobiva&nbsp; potpunom oksidacijom cime acetil CoA ulazi u citratni ciklus (Krebsov ciklus) i služi za proizvodnju stanicne energije, to je tare i napisao par postova iznad... no u ovom slucaju kad je poremecen metabolizam UH-a, zbog manjka piruvata neophodnog za konacnu oksidaciju acetil CoA dolazi do nepotpune oksidacije cime taj nagomilani CoA kondenzira u jedan spoj kojeg ce tare bolje znat, da ga sad ne tražim :), a on se onda dalje enzimski cijepa i daje ketonska tijela koji služe kao hrana mozgu i ostalim sustavima u stanju nedostatka glukoze... sve se to događa u jetri..<br><br>..ja sam to tako nekako pohvatala, onako najednostavnije receno, pa neka sad to tare ili netko drugi ko zna ispravi ako treba <img src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"><br><br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Gym_girl</span>]]>
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   <title>Masti u prehrani :   Asia wrote:  The Phoenix wrote:ma...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4674">The Phoenix</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3523<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10&nbsp;Ožujak&nbsp;2011 at 13:49<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Asia" alt="Originally posted by Asia" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Asia wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by The Phoenix" alt="Originally posted by The Phoenix" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>The Phoenix wrote:</strong><br /><br />ma naravno, nebi ni ja <br />mogel da radim od 8 , a ne od 9, to <br />sam se šalio.....<br />A tebi ak ostane i 5 sati do spavanja onda nemas razlogas <br />ne pojest i p+uh i p + m obrok <img border="0" src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> <br />Ali velim, popi deblji pwm i poslje p+ m i spavanje ak je <br />na knap s vremenom.</td></tr></table> <br />Znaci....Deblji PWM 60 g dexa+ 20 g wheya +š0 g BCAA je <br />o.k. ili?<br />Onda nakon 2 sata 250 g posnoga + kikiriki u ljusci-<br />koliko 30 g ili mogu malo više? <img border="0" src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif" border="0"></td></tr></table> <br /><br />Ma da, to ti je dost, ak nije trening tolko jak nit <br />nemora bit 60g, ak ti je cilj gubitak kg onda mozes i <br />manje, 40g bu dost.......neznam nakon kakvog treninga to <br />uzimas i s kojim ciljem....<br />Ak je nakon insanitya mislim da nema potrebe tolko Uh <br />uopce u pwm<br /> i prije spavanja je ok, a kikirikija.....neznam, <br />pogledaj si kolko masti zelis unjet prema svom dbnvnom <br />okvirnom unosu, tolko si odvaži kikirikija :)]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Masti u prehrani :   crna_kej wrote:  The Phoenix...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4674">The Phoenix</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3523<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10&nbsp;Ožujak&nbsp;2011 at 13:45<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by crna_kej" alt="Originally posted by crna_kej" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>crna_kej wrote:</strong><br /><br /><p><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by The Phoenix" alt="Originally posted by The Phoenix" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>The Phoenix wrote:</strong><br /><br />ma naravno, nebi <br />ni ja mogel da radim od 8 , a ne od 9, to sam se <br />šalio..... A tebi ak ostane i 5 sati do spavanja onda <br />nemas razlogas ne pojest i p+uh i p + m obrok <br /><img src="border=0 smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> Ali velim, popi <br />deblji pwm i poslje p+ m i spavanje ak je na knap s <br />vremenom.</td></tr></table>  fale mi one zagrebacke teretane koje <br />pocinju radit u 6.30-7 <img border="0" src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> jer mi vise pasu jutarnji <br />treninzi.. cak se salim da bi u zgradi u kojoj radim <br />trebali napravit jednu teretanu..</p><br /><p>sad me zadavi.. al sto bi bio deblji pwm na low carb <br />dijeti? u slucaju keto je jasno da je to p+m..<img border="0" src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif" border="0"> znas <br />mene da ko hrckic skupljam info za svoj preobrazaj</p><br /></td></tr></table> <br /><br />a na low carb....ovisi kolko je to uh dnevno? ak je š00g <br />npr ja bi 50% uzeo u pwm.....<br />a na keto , meni je to keto sam isto uzimao pwm, zapravo <br />nikad se ne odricem pwm , jedino uzmem 30g Uh u pwm....i <br />to mi je jedini dnevni unos uh bio]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=6235">Asia</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3523<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10&nbsp;Ožujak&nbsp;2011 at 12:34<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by The Phoenix" alt="Originally posted by The Phoenix" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>The Phoenix wrote:</strong><br /><br />ma naravno, nebi ni ja mogel da radim od 8 , a ne od 9, to <br />sam se šalio.....<br />A tebi ak ostane i 5 sati do spavanja onda nemas razlogas <br />ne pojest i p+uh i p + m obrok <img border="0" src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> <br />Ali velim, popi deblji pwm i poslje p+ m i spavanje ak je <br />na knap s vremenom.</td></tr></table> <br />Znaci....Deblji PWM 60 g dexa+ 20 g wheya +š0 g BCAA je o.k. ili?<br />Onda nakon 2 sata 250 g posnoga + kikiriki u ljusci-koliko 30 g ili mogu malo više? <img border="0" src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Masti u prehrani :   The Phoenix wrote:ma naravno,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2584">crna_kej</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3523<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10&nbsp;Ožujak&nbsp;2011 at 12:29<br /><br /><P><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by The Phoenix" alt="Originally posted by The Phoenix" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>The Phoenix wrote:</strong><br /><br />ma naravno, nebi ni ja mogel da radim od 8 , a ne od 9, to <BR>sam se šalio..... <BR>A tebi ak ostane i 5 sati do spavanja onda nemas razlogas <BR>ne pojest i p+uh i p + m obrok <IMG border=0 src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> <BR>Ali velim, popi deblji pwm i poslje p+ m i spavanje ak je <BR>na knap s vremenom.</td></tr></table> &nbsp;fale mi one zagrebacke teretane koje pocinju radit u 6.30-7 <IMG src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0">&nbsp;jer mi vise pasu jutarnji treninzi.. cak se salim da bi u zgradi u kojoj radim trebali napravit jednu teretanu..</P><P>sad me zadavi.. al sto bi bio deblji pwm na low carb dijeti? u slucaju keto je jasno da je to p+m..<IMG src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif" border="0">&nbsp;znas mene da ko hrckic skupljam info za svoj preobrazaj</P>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4674">The Phoenix</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3523<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10&nbsp;Ožujak&nbsp;2011 at 12:19<br /><br />ma naravno, nebi ni ja mogel da radim od 8 , a ne od 9, to <br />sam se šalio.....<br />A tebi ak ostane i 5 sati do spavanja onda nemas razlogas <br />ne pojest i p+uh i p + m obrok <img border="0" src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> <br />Ali velim, popi deblji pwm i poslje p+ m i spavanje ak je <br />na knap s vremenom.]]>
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   <title>Masti u prehrani :   The Phoenix wrote:  ThornOfFaith...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2584">crna_kej</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3523<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10&nbsp;Ožujak&nbsp;2011 at 11:58<br /><br /><P><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by The Phoenix" alt="Originally posted by The Phoenix" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>The Phoenix wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by ThornOfFaith" alt="Originally posted by ThornOfFaith" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>ThornOfFaith wrote:</strong><br /><br />&nbsp; <BR>ajde feniks spašavaj situaciju! <IMG border=0 src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0"><IMG border=0 src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0"><IMG border=0 src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"></td></tr></table> <BR><BR><IMG border=0 src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0"> <IMG border=0 src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0"> <BR><BR>heheheh, slažem se s Thornom, vježbajte ranije pa si <BR>posložite obroke lakše <IMG border=0 src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0"> <IMG border=0 src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0"> <IMG border=0 src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0"> <BR>Meni je savršeno dan i svi do jednog obroci savršeni kad <BR>treniram ujutro, mogu tocno do podne UH, poslje ne ako <BR>tak želim <IMG border=0 src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0"> <IMG border=0 src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0"> <BR>I ne kakajte da nemrete uvijek u isto <BR>vrijeme........nemrem ni ja, i baš zato iskljucivo <BR>treniram od 7 ujutro kako se nebi izgovarao da danas <BR>popodne imam obaveze ili sma otao duže na poslu <IMG border=0 src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> <BR><IMG border=0 src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0"> <IMG border=0 src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0"> <IMG border=0 src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0"> <BR><BR>Ak ste vec morate kasno trenirat (niej ni cudo da vam se <BR>muževi bune onda ) onda........neznam, Passion je dobro <BR>rekal kad god treniraš poslje obavezno P+Uh , a nakon pwm <BR>ak imaš još jedan obrok prije spavanja.......e to <BR>neznam....oko tog se i ja dvoumim tak da možete pojest <BR>još jedan p+UH i onda ostat duže budne i pojes još jedan <BR>p +m i onda iamte sve pokriveno <IMG border=0 src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley14.gif" border="0"> <BR><BR>A sad ozbiljno, experimentiraj na sebi i to je <BR>to.....popi deblji PWM i poslje P+M prije spavanja i ne <BR>komplicirajte <BR><IMG border=0 src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"></td></tr></table> &nbsp;</P><P>je.. imas praf fant.. samo sto je kod mene neizvedivo kad radim od 8 i do š7h nisam slobodna nikako. da bi posteno doruckovala se vec budim u 6.30. Nema dana kad mi ne uleti po sastanak i kaj onda.. ako i ocu u teretanu mora bit u nekom terminu oko š9h.Al ne vidim problem da taj obrok bude p+m ili ako je zesci trening p+uh kad jos imam 5h dok odem spavat</P>]]>
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   <title>Masti u prehrani :   ThornOfFaith wrote:&#160; ajde feniks...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4674">The Phoenix</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3523<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10&nbsp;Ožujak&nbsp;2011 at 11:10<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by ThornOfFaith" alt="Originally posted by ThornOfFaith" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>ThornOfFaith wrote:</strong><br /><br /> <br />ajde feniks spašavaj situaciju! <img border="0" src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0"><img border="0" src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0"><img border="0" src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"></td></tr></table> <br /><br /> <img border="0" src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0">  <img border="0" src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />heheheh, slažem se s Thornom, vježbajte ranije pa si <br />posložite obroke lakše <img border="0" src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0">  <img border="0" src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0">  <img border="0" src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0"> <br />Meni je savršeno dan i svi do jednog obroci savršeni kad <br />treniram ujutro, mogu tocno do podne UH, poslje ne ako <br />tak želim <img border="0" src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0">  <img border="0" src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0"> <br />I ne kakajte da nemrete uvijek u isto <br />vrijeme........nemrem ni ja, i baš zato iskljucivo <br />treniram od 7 ujutro kako se nebi izgovarao da danas <br />popodne imam obaveze ili sma otao duže na poslu <img border="0" src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0">  <br /><img border="0" src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0">  <img border="0" src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0">  <img border="0" src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />Ak ste vec morate kasno trenirat (niej ni cudo da vam se <br />muževi bune onda ) onda........neznam, Passion je dobro <br />rekal kad god treniraš poslje obavezno P+Uh , a nakon pwm <br />ak imaš još jedan obrok prije spavanja.......e to <br />neznam....oko tog se i ja dvoumim tak da možete pojest <br />još jedan p+UH i onda ostat duže budne i pojes još jedan <br />p +m i onda iamte sve pokriveno <img border="0" src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley14.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />A sad ozbiljno, experimentiraj na sebi i to je <br />to.....popi deblji PWM i poslje P+M prije spavanja i ne <br />komplicirajte<br /> <img border="0" src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=6562">Passiongym</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3523<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10&nbsp;Ožujak&nbsp;2011 at 10:46<br /><br />Nema na cemu  <img border="0" src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=6235">Asia</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3523<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10&nbsp;Ožujak&nbsp;2011 at 10:45<br /><br />Znaci to sam i pretpostavljala-posni + orašasti,ili posni+ulje<br />Hvala <img border="0" src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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