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   <title>Protein sirutke nezdrav....clanak! :   iver wrote:  mettasttaza wrote: ...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=13532">mettasttaza</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26&nbsp;Listopad&nbsp;2013 at 01:04<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by iver" alt="Originally posted by iver" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>iver wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by mettasttaza" alt="Originally posted by mettasttaza" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>mettasttaza wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by iver" alt="Originally posted by iver" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>iver wrote:</strong><br /><br />gymka dobro receno, baš "kvazi istraživanja", i jutros sam citao jedno od British journal of..., na kraju sitnim slovima napisali kako je istraživac savjetnik kompanije za supplemente :)<br>  @Avangarde, baš i nije usput Osijek, a nisam ni sliku vidio što je za rucak :)) Pa da još ne bih i sa Mettom morao vježbati, u mojim godinama su lucullusove gozbe zanimljivije od vježbanja :)) Sad zbilja idem vecerati i nestati, zgrijao sam teletinu<br></td></tr></table><br><div><br></div><div>Hej što ne valja samnom&nbsp;<img src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /></div></td></tr></table> <br><br>  Ma nemam vremena do jutra pisati :)))  .  Ajde mett, ne pazi na svašta, to je bila šala, jer si pun želje za mišicima, a ja bih ipak radije uživao u dobroj klopi:) Takav tip treninga i mišice prepuštam mladjima. Osjetit ceš da se kroz godine prioriteti mijenjaju, i to jako. Pa je meni sad lijepše uživati u društvu, finoj klopi, vinu, a kile skidam u igri sa mojim psima, koji su doduše i teži i jaci od mene :)..Svoj gym koristim samo za isprobavanje vježbi i ucenje. A, sad za ozbiljno, ako hoceš mogu napisati neki osvrt o tvom treningu, bez brige, bit cu blag, i samo ako hoceš :)))&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>Bilo bih mi iznimno drago ! :))) I bio bih pocašcen! &nbsp;:D</div>]]>
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   <title>Protein sirutke nezdrav....clanak! :   mettasttaza wrote:  iver wrote:gymka...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10541">iver</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25&nbsp;Listopad&nbsp;2013 at 23:57<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by mettasttaza" alt="Originally posted by mettasttaza" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>mettasttaza wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by iver" alt="Originally posted by iver" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>iver wrote:</strong><br /><br />gymka dobro receno, baš "kvazi istraživanja", i jutros sam citao jedno od British journal of..., na kraju sitnim slovima napisali kako je istraživac savjetnik kompanije za supplemente :)<br />  @Avangarde, baš i nije usput Osijek, a nisam ni sliku vidio što je za rucak :)) Pa da još ne bih i sa Mettom morao vježbati, u mojim godinama su lucullusove gozbe zanimljivije od vježbanja :)) Sad zbilja idem vecerati i nestati, zgrijao sam teletinu<br /></td></tr></table><br /><div><br /></div><div>Hej što ne valja samnom <img src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /></div></td></tr></table> <br /><br />  Ma nemam vremena do jutra pisati :)))  .  Ajde mett, ne pazi na svašta, to je bila šala, jer si pun želje za mišicima, a ja bih ipak radije uživao u dobroj klopi:) Takav tip treninga i mišice prepuštam mladjima. Osjetit ceš da se kroz godine prioriteti mijenjaju, i to jako. Pa je meni sad lijepše uživati u društvu, finoj klopi, vinu, a kile skidam u igri sa mojim psima, koji su doduše i teži i jaci od mene :)..Svoj gym koristim samo za isprobavanje vježbi i ucenje. A, sad za ozbiljno, ako hoceš mogu napisati neki osvrt o tvom treningu, bez brige, bit cu blag, i samo ako hoceš :)))&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;]]>
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   <title>Protein sirutke nezdrav....clanak! :   iver wrote:gymka dobro re&#269;eno,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=13532">mettasttaza</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25&nbsp;Listopad&nbsp;2013 at 16:39<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by iver" alt="Originally posted by iver" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>iver wrote:</strong><br /><br />gymka dobro receno, baš "kvazi istraživanja", i jutros sam citao jedno od British journal of..., na kraju sitnim slovima napisali kako je istraživac savjetnik kompanije za supplemente :)<br>  @Avangarde, baš i nije usput Osijek, a nisam ni sliku vidio što je za rucak :)) Pa da još ne bih i sa Mettom morao vježbati, u mojim godinama su lucullusove gozbe zanimljivije od vježbanja :)) Sad zbilja idem vecerati i nestati, zgrijao sam teletinu<br></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>Hej što ne valja samnom&nbsp;<img src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /></div>]]>
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   <title>Protein sirutke nezdrav....clanak! :   bebolina wrote: Uglavnom,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3842">GajbaPive</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25&nbsp;Listopad&nbsp;2013 at 15:45<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by bebolina" alt="Originally posted by bebolina" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>bebolina wrote:</strong><br /><br /><div>Uglavnom, p<span title="Protein powders are often filled with preservatives, genetically modified organisms GMOs, allergens like dairy whey protein isolate and soy, and other synthetic toxins like aspartame, saccharin, and artificial flavors.">roteinski prašci su cesto puni konzervansa , genetski modificirani , puni alergena kao što su izolat proteina sirutke, soje i drugih sintetickih toksina poput aspartama , saharina i umjetnih okusa .<br></span></td></tr></table><br>kada se to ovako napise, izgleda zastrasujuce. a sad pogledaj sve ostale proizvode koje svakodnevno koristis pod "normalno".<br><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by bebolina" alt="Originally posted by bebolina" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>bebolina wrote:</strong><br /><br /><br><span title="In fact, C&#111;nsumer Res c&#111;nducted an eye-ing study a few years ago, showing that several protein powders &#111;n the market c&#111;ntain dangerous levels of toxic heavy ls — specifically arsenic, cadmium and lead.">Istraživanja su pokazala da nekoliko proteina praha na tržištu sadrže opasne razine otrovnih teških metala - posebno arsena , kadmija i olova . <br></span></td></tr></table><br>"nekoliko proteina praha", isto kao sto i "nekoliko igracaka iz kine sadrzi opasne i kancerogene tvari, ne znaci da su svi takvi, te da se treba dramiti oko toga.<br></div><p><span title="In fact, C&#111;nsumer Res c&#111;nducted an eye-ing study a few years ago, showing that several protein powders &#111;n the market c&#111;ntain dangerous levels of toxic heavy ls — specifically arsenic, cadmium and lead."></span> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by bebolina" alt="Originally posted by bebolina" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>bebolina wrote:</strong><br /><br /></p><p><span title="In fact, C&#111;nsumer Res c&#111;nducted an eye-ing study a few years ago, showing that several protein powders &#111;n the market c&#111;ntain dangerous levels of toxic heavy ls — specifically arsenic, cadmium and lead.">Kao dobra alternativa se navodi konopljin protein.</span></p><div></div><div><a href="http://www.mindbodygreen.com/0-11371/why-you-really-shouldnt-use-protein-powders.html" target="_blank">http://www.mindbodygreen.com/0-11371/why-you-really-shouldnt-use-protein-powders.html</a></div><div>&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table><br>i dosli smo do kljucnog dijela. cijeli tekst nije nista drugo nego promo clanak kvazi "znanstvenika" koji ce napraviti zakljucak kakav zelis, dok god platis. tako su i za aspartam radili dodatna istrazivanja koja su pokazala potpuno suprotne rezultate od prvog, jer prvo nije odgovaralo prehrambenoj industriji. naravno, promjenili su i znanstvenike, a ove prve, bez obzira na njihovu reputaciju, proglasili su polupismenim neznalicama. <br>]]>
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   <title>Protein sirutke nezdrav....clanak! : gymka dobro re&#269;eno, ba&#353; &amp;#034;kvazi...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10541">iver</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25&nbsp;Listopad&nbsp;2013 at 00:57<br /><br />gymka dobro receno, baš "kvazi istraživanja", i jutros sam citao jedno od British journal of..., na kraju sitnim slovima napisali kako je istraživac savjetnik kompanije za supplemente :)<br />  @Avangarde, baš i nije usput Osijek, a nisam ni sliku vidio što je za rucak :)) Pa da još ne bih i sa Mettom morao vježbati, u mojim godinama su lucullusove gozbe zanimljivije od vježbanja :)) Sad zbilja idem vecerati i nestati, zgrijao sam teletinu<br />  ]]>
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   <title>Protein sirutke nezdrav....clanak! :  Ja sam ve&#263; par puta pisala da...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2034">Gym_girl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25&nbsp;Listopad&nbsp;2013 at 00:30<br /><br /><div>Ja sam vec par puta pisala da nebi stavila ruku u vatru za to, uz sve hvale i kvazi istraživanja&nbsp;<img src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /></div><div><br></div><div>Uostalom, da se nešto i razvije od toga, kako ceš znat da je upravo whey kriv uz sva ostala cuda danas, ljudi se i bez toga razbolijevaju nažalost....tako da...živi bili pa.......samo da je glava mirna.</div>]]>
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   <title>Protein sirutke nezdrav....clanak! : ok, ako zavrsim na dijalizi tebi...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10645">avangarde</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25&nbsp;Listopad&nbsp;2013 at 00:25<br /><br />ok, ako zavrsim na dijalizi tebi prvom javljam.<img src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> <br /> pa bas sam mislila pitat da navratis kad je vec usput  <img src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0" align="middle" />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by avangarde - 25&nbsp;Listopad&nbsp;2013 at 00:25</span>]]>
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   <title>Protein sirutke nezdrav....clanak! : za cigarete bar znamo :(  a za...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10541">iver</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25&nbsp;Listopad&nbsp;2013 at 00:21<br /><br />za cigarete bar znamo :(  a za whey mi napiši za 10 godina :) Odoh spavat, sutra na put. Danas skoro završio u Osijeku :)]]>
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   <title>Protein sirutke nezdrav....clanak! : slazem se ovo s kravama u Americi,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10645">avangarde</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25&nbsp;Listopad&nbsp;2013 at 00:06<br /><br />slazem se ovo s kravama u Americi, ali nevjerujem ni da su nase puno bolje <img src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> anyway cilj mi je bio samo naglasiti da ne postoji hrana koja ne sadrzi barem nesto od navedenog gore u clanku, osim naravno ako imas sve svoje ali i to je dikutabilno. ne znam zasto bi se ljudi trebali zabrinjavati zbog mjerice wheya koju uzimaju na dan iza treninga uz sav junk, cigarete, alkohol i sve ostalo sto konzumiraju na dnevnoj bazi..]]>
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   <title>Protein sirutke nezdrav....clanak! : Ne postoje sigurni podaci koliko...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10541">iver</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24&nbsp;Listopad&nbsp;2013 at 23:57<br /><br /> Ne postoje sigurni podaci koliko je dugotrajno uzimanje proteina sirutke zdravo ili nezdravo, a i to kako za koga.  Avangarde, ono što je u ovom komentaru, inace razumnom, sumnjivo, je da tvrdi kako nema GMO i sintetickih komponenata, itd...Naime u USA jedva da postoje krave koje se ne hrane GMO hranom i da im se ne dodaje somatotropin, koji se ne znam u kojoj mjeri može a mislim da nemože, izvuci mikrofiltracijom, a može imati zdravstvene posljedice. od kod nas dostupnih proizvodjaca nisam još vidjeo niti jednog da piše ciji protein koristi, jer oni nisu proizvodjaci. Pa dolazim do nepoznatog izvora tih proteina, dok se recimo vani na kutijama može pronac porijeklo i patentirano ime tog proteina, pa tocno znam što pijem, i od mlijeka krava sa ispaše bez gmo modificirane hrane i bez hormona. I za ono što pijem je diskutabilno je li zdravo, ali je više zdravo od onih koji prešucuju odakle nabavljaju whey. Onih par "proizvodjaca naljepnica" koje povremeno pijem, koriste npr patentirani Proserum whey, ali to kod nas nema u prodaji. Ali, od bilo koga da kupim whey Proserum, znam tocno što pijem i odakle je.<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by iver - 25&nbsp;Listopad&nbsp;2013 at 00:00</span>]]>
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