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   <title>Kako sam ja ostavario cilj !!!! : @Zoki Kao prvo hwala.Sto se tice...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=491">kiki_ns</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 619<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14&nbsp;Studeni&nbsp;2007 at 08:26<br /><br /><P>@Zoki</P><P>Kao prvo hwala.Sto se tice jelovnika,napisao sam da se radi o jednom danu koji sam prepisao iz svog dnevnika.Znaci da se ne drzite striktno toga.&nbsp;&nbsp; Jedem ili sam jeo, sada kako hoces,tunu i vise od 3 puta dnevno ali i manje.&nbsp;&nbsp; Moj optimum je oko kg cistog mesa u toku dana,pilece belo,tuna,oslic.....&nbsp;&nbsp; Sto se tice rucka a i same ishrane ona se razlikuje kada sam na masi,kada sam na pred proteinskoj dijeti i kada sam na samoj proteinskoj dijeti.&nbsp;&nbsp; Sto se tice rucka,ajd recimo samo kada nisam na masi jeste,svo moguce povrce spremano na vodi i naravno meso.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; U mojoj redovnoj ishrani je ELA sir sa 0% mm i on je obavezan&nbsp;neposredno pre&nbsp;spavanja,jedno h&nbsp;zajedno sa belancima.&nbsp; Sto se tice UH oni se razlikuju isto zavisno dal sam na masi ili defki.U slucaju mase to je cokolada sa rizom,banane,bonzita,dextroza.....ali kada sam na prot dijeti tada je jedini izvor UH integralni pirinac i psenicne klice sa vodom i samo nakon treninga</P><P>@Mr G</P><P>Hwala !!! Sto se tice whey tj dal je izolat,kazein iliti gayner.Meni je na prvom mestu kvalitet a to sa kazeinom iliti gaynerom nemogu dobiti.Ako je neko nekada bio na proteinskoj dijeti ilii na totalnom LOW unosu UH zna zasto mi je neophodan unos cokoladnog napitka pred spavanje.U meni to smanjuje zelju za slatkim kako ne bih nocu tumarao po stanu i trazio isto</P><P>Sp.pozdrav</P>]]>
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   <title>Kako sam ja ostavario cilj !!!! : Isto tako pohvala sto se tice...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=26">Mr G.</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 619<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 13&nbsp;Studeni&nbsp;2007 at 17:46<br /><br />Isto tako pohvala sto se tice napredovanja.<br><br>5x tjedno trcanje? <img src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> Svaka cast na trudu i motivaciji!<br><br>Btw imam i ja par pitanja - zasto whey pred spavanje?<br>Whey je brzo apsorbirajuci protein - zasto ne sporo apsorbirajuci protein prije spavanja?<br>]]>
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   <title>Kako sam ja ostavario cilj !!!! :  Pohvala za slike. Mojih par...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=7">Zoki</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 619<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 13&nbsp;Studeni&nbsp;2007 at 15:09<br /><br />Pohvala za slike. <img src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif" border="0"><br><br><br>Mojih par pitanja vezano uz jelovnik..<br><br>to jedes 3 puta tunu dnevno? Koja kolicina je u igri?<br><br>Od cega ti se rucak sastoji?<br><br>Moja preporuka ti je da jedes posni sir umjesto jedne runde tune.<br><br>to ne uzimas brze ugljikohidrate poslije treninga?&nbsp;]]>
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   <title>Kako sam ja ostavario cilj !!!! :   Ewo malo da doprinesem radu...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=491">kiki_ns</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 619<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 13&nbsp;Studeni&nbsp;2007 at 08:42<br /><br /><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; text-align: justify; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;" lang="PL">Ewo malo da doprinesem radu foruma i da pomognem nekome ako je moguce.Nisamznao gde i kako da nazovem temu , pa ako sam nesto pogresio isparvite me.</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; text-align: justify; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;" lang="PL">:</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; text-align: justify; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;" lang="PL">&nbsp;&nbsp; Od <b>9.januara -20.marta</b> sam bio na masi sa treninzima od5x nedeljno.</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; text-align: justify; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;" lang="PL">&nbsp;&nbsp; I onda <b>20 marata</b> krecem sa trcanjem,<b>rano ujutro i tona gladan stomak apsolutno.</b></span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; text-align: justify; line-height: normal;"><b><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: rgb(23, 20, 7);" lang="PL">&nbsp;</span></b><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><ul style="margin-top: 0cm;" ="disc"><li ="Ms&#;normal" style="color: rgb(23, 20, 7); margin-bottom: 0.000pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;" lang="PL">I nedelje je to bilo 3x nedeljno</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></li><li ="Ms&#;normal" style="color: rgb(23, 20, 7); margin-bottom: 0.000pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;">II     ------------------- 4x ----------</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></li><li ="Ms&#;normal" style="color: rgb(23, 20, 7); margin-bottom: 0.000pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;">III     ------------------ 5x ----------</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></li><li ="Ms&#;normal" style="color: rgb(23, 20, 7); margin-bottom: 0.000pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;">IV     ------------------ 6x ----------</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></li><li ="Ms&#;normal" style="color: rgb(23, 20, 7); margin-bottom: 0.000pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;" lang="PL">Narednih nedelja sam trcao 5x nedeljno a     povremeno i 2x dnevno dok sam treninge povecao na 6x nedeljno</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; text-align: justify; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;" lang="PL">&nbsp;&nbsp; Ja sam stalno trcao isto(5.5km) i nikada nisam gledao kao stovecina gleda,vreme,npr da to uvek bude 30 ili 40 minuta.Ne,ja sam krenuo dauradim definiciju ali eksplozivnu a ne da se spremam za marathon ili stavec.Posle prve IV nedelje sam krenuo na HIT cardio.</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; text-align: justify; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;" lang="PL">Mislim poenta tog stomaka,tj njegovog (ne)stajanja jeste ubrzavanjametabolizma. </span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><ul style="margin-top: 0cm;" ="disc"><li ="Ms&#;normal" style="color: rgb(23, 20, 7); margin-bottom: 0.000pt; text-align: justify; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;" lang="PL">Cardio obavezno ujutro na gladan stomak</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></li><li ="Ms&#;normal" style="color: rgb(23, 20, 7); margin-bottom: 0.000pt; text-align: justify; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;" lang="PL">Ishrana se mora postepeno modifikovati(krajnje je <b>proteinska </b>dijeta)     sa <b>MIN </b>5-6 obroka dnevno</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></li><li ="Ms&#;normal" style="color: rgb(23, 20, 7); margin-bottom: 0.000pt; text-align: justify; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;" lang="PL">Unos UH po principu 50-75-0-75-50-0-0&nbsp;     (pon,uto,sre,&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.nedelja) je u kasnijoj fazi in a taj nacin se metabolizam     zavarava tj. </span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;">UH variraju</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;" lang="PL">Da&nbsp; bude jasnije,evo jednog dana iz mogdnevnika</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;" lang="PL">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;">09:00&nbsp;&nbsp; cardio</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;">09:30&nbsp;&nbsp; 30g whey + 5g glutamine</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;">0:00&nbsp;&nbsp; 00g&nbsp; psenicne klice sa vodom</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;" lang="PL">2:30&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; rucak</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;" lang="PL">4:30&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; tuna + inegralnipirinac</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;" lang="PL">6:30&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; isto</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;" lang="PL">8:30&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; isto</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;">20:00&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; pirinac + 5 belanaca</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;">22:00&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 300g pilece belo </span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;">00:00&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 30g whey + 5g glutamine</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;" lang="PL">(ovo je jelovnik pre nego sto cu krenuti savariranjem UH ali kao sto se vidi ishrana je regulisana)</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: rgb(23, 20, 7);" lang="PL">&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; text-align: justify; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;" lang="PL">&nbsp;&nbsp; Od juna sam krenuo sa variranjem UH 50-75-0-75-50-0-0,gdesam povecao unos proteina.</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; text-align: justify; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; text-align: justify; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;" lang="PL">Rad sa tegovima mi je izgledao ovako:</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; text-align: justify; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: rgb(23, 20, 7);" lang="PL">&nbsp;Pon: grudi</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; text-align: justify; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: rgb(23, 20, 7);" lang="PL">&nbsp;Uto: ruke</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; text-align: justify; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: rgb(23, 20, 7);" lang="PL">&nbsp;Sre: ramena</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; text-align: justify; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: rgb(23, 20, 7);" lang="PL">&nbsp;Cet: ////////</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; text-align: justify; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: rgb(23, 20, 7);" lang="PL">&nbsp;Pet: Ledja/triceps</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; text-align: justify; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: rgb(23, 20, 7);" lang="PL">&nbsp;Sub: Noge</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; text-align: justify; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; text-align: justify; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: rgb(23, 20, 7);" lang="PL">Stomak skoro svaki put</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; text-align: justify; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;" lang="PL">Inace slike mog rada su na temi "ostalo"</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#;normal" style="margin-bottom: 0.000pt; text-align: justify; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 2pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; color: black;" lang="PL">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span style="font-size: 2pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><br>Edit:smanjen font<br><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Zoki</span>]]>
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