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   <title>Zatezanje :   The Phoenix wrote:&#160; Mislim...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=5541">Tamron</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4239<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24&nbsp;Veljaca&nbsp;2011 at 10:31<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by The Phoenix" alt="Originally posted by The Phoenix" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>The Phoenix wrote:</strong><br /><br /> <br />Mislim da je on na definiciji kolko se sjecam iz postova <br />prije zato sam mu tak i odgovorio..........jel si mislio <br />na definiciju Tamron dal bi mogao i s utezima radit?<br /></td></tr></table> <br /><br />Izgubio sam nekih 5-6 kila u mjesec i po-dva. I to ne <br />izgladnjivanjem nego pravilnom i kontroliranom prehranom. <br />Trebao bi još jer moram skinut stomak, ali sam primijetio <br />da mi se koža na rukama otegnula. E sad, i dalje moram <br />"forsirati" crobni (vijaca i squash), a opet ne bih htio <br />da mi se otezanje kože poveca. <br />Kakav trening s utezima primjeniti? ]]>
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   <title>Zatezanje :    sposnimcute wrote:              ovo...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1072">ThornOfFaith</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4239<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24&nbsp;Veljaca&nbsp;2011 at 01:23<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by sposnimcute" alt="Originally posted by sposnimcute" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>sposnimcute wrote:</strong><br /><br /><br><br>ovo je dost dobra stranica za pocetnike po tom principu:<br><br>http://www.scoobysworkshop.com/schedintermediate.htm<br>bf-dolje, lean body mass gore istodobno, treninzi intenzivni<br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp;</td></tr></table> <br>lik koji vježba sa šeširom i vrtnim patuljkom je baš referenca kojom se treba pohvaliti <br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 01:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Zatezanje : O tom tvom postu ima toliko gluposti...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1167">Iluvatar</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4239<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24&nbsp;Veljaca&nbsp;2011 at 00:56<br /><br />O tom tvom postu ima toliko gluposti da neznam gdje poceti<br /><br />samo jedna stvar.. to što snaga raste tijekom definicije ne znaci da dobivaš mišice nužno ( iako ako si baš pocetnik, možeš dobiti nešto)<br /><br />]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 00:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=5310">sposnimcute</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4239<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23&nbsp;Veljaca&nbsp;2011 at 22:54<br /><br />takve izjave su i meni dosta usporile razvoj, pa nisam radio ancrobno prvu godinu-2<br>"nemoguce je dobit i gram mišica ako ne jedeš 2500kcal" <img src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" border="0"><img src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" border="0"><img src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" border="0"><br><br><br>š. najbitniji su ciljevi<br>&nbsp;ako netko ima drukciji cilj od 90 kg mišicne mase, ne mora se forsirat 2500kcal "poštena masa" teorija<br><br><br>2. na definiciji svi ozbiljniji ljudi ovdi dobivaju oko pola kile mišicne mjesecno, <span style="font-weight: bold;">ozbiljna definicija</span>:<span style="font-weight: bold;"> </span><span style="font-weight: bold; text-decorati&#šš1;n: underline;">20min</span> cardio + <span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="text-decorati&#šš1;n: underline;">ozbiljan ancrobni</span><br><br><br>2 podcrtane stvari:</span><br><span style="text-decorati&#šš1;n: underline;">20min cardio:</span> ako želiš dobit mišicnu masu bolje se zadrži na 20 min, zbog katabolizma<br>š0 min bicikla ti je recimo 60kcal, tako da se ne isplati 30-45min. al forsiraj cim poštenijih tih 20 min<span style="font-weight: bold;"><br></span>meni recimo sad jutarnji kardio 20min dođe 4.5km trcanja, polušprint dođe, taman za razbuđivanje, i nema katabolizma<span style="font-weight: bold;"><br></span>to je 300+ kcal,<span style="font-weight: bold;"> </span>dok je 30-40 min nekog neozbiljnog odrađenog cardia vjerojatno i manje, pa ti se zbog katabolizma najviše isplati cim poštenijih tih 20 min napravit<br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;"><br style="font-weight: bold;"></span><span style="text-decorati&#šš1;n: underline;">ozbiljan ancrobni:</span><span style="text-decorati&#šš1;n: underline;"></span><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="text-decorati&#šš1;n: underline;"><br></span></span>najbitnije. pogotovo na definiciji mišici nece rast sami od sebe, ako pristupiš izuzetno ozbiljno rast ceš dosta, pogotovo uz gubitak bf-a, pola kile mišicne mjesecno ce ti biti dosta<span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="text-decorati&#šš1;n: underline;"><br></span></span><br><span style="text-decorati&#šš1;n: underline;">znaci to je:</span><br>+ pola kile mišicne ako ozbiljno pristupiš ancrobnom treningu <br>+ ostanak stare mišicne ako ne radiš cardio duže od 20min<span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="text-decorati&#šš1;n: underline;"><br></span><br></span><br><br>recimo mojih zadnjih 9 mjeseci je izgledalo:<br>š300kcal, š80g proteina, 20 min jutarnji cardio, 4-5 treninga vecernjih ancrobnih<br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">najbitnije:</span> fanatican pristup treninzima - 8 podizanja, drop serije(8xš00%, bez odmora 8x80%, 8x60%, š5x40%), bol, bol, ako možeš hodat do iduce sprave, možeš stavit š0 kg više<br><br>mjesecno: pola kile mišicne gore, 2% bf-a dolje<br>sad sam na negdi 90-tak kila benca, u usporedbi sa sobom pred 9 mjeseci dok sam se borio sa utezima od 4kg<br>ne mogu se ni usporedit. <br><br><br>tako da se vratim na pocetno pitanje, žešci crobni ti nitko nece preporucit, stavi žeštinu u intenzitet ne u trajanje<br>20 min ozbiljnog cardia, a rast ceš i lean body mass ce ic gore ako ancrobne radiš intenzivno <br><br>ovo je dost dobra stranica za pocetnike po tom principu:<br><br>http://www.scoobysworkshop.com/schedintermediate.htm<br>bf-dolje, lean body mass gore istodobno, treninzi intenzivni<br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by sposnimcute</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4674">The Phoenix</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4239<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23&nbsp;Veljaca&nbsp;2011 at 21:11<br /><br />&nbsp;Mislim da je on na definiciji kolko se sjecam iz postova prije zato sam mu tak i odgovorio..........jel si mislio na definiciju Tamron dal bi mogao i s utezima radit?<br>]]>
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   <title>Zatezanje :   Tamron wrote:  Iluvatar wrote: ...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1167">Iluvatar</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4239<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23&nbsp;Veljaca&nbsp;2011 at 19:58<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Tamron" alt="Originally posted by Tamron" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Tamron wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Iluvatar" alt="Originally posted by Iluvatar" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Iluvatar wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Tamron" alt="Originally posted by Tamron" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Tamron wrote:</strong><br /><br />Možda je malo offtopic, <br />ali je isto vezano za temu. Može li <br />se u isto vrijeme raditi žešci crobni (da bi se izgubio <br />stomak) i trening utezima za masu (da se ne objesi koža <br />na <br />rukama, nogama i leđima).<br />Je li to kontraproduktivno i ima li uopce to smisla?<br /></td></tr></table> <br /><br />tehnicki ne možeš graditi i mišice i salo u isto vrijeme, <br />ali nešto što bi išlo pod tvoj opis najbolje je trening <br />nekakav kružni trening, pa recimo s girjama i <br />tako</td></tr></table> <br /><br />Kružni trening za masu?</td></tr></table> <br /><br />Rekao sam ti da ne možeš gubiti salo i graditi mišice u isto vrijeme, ali ako mršaviš sjedeci na fotelji pa cak i vozeci bicikl, neceš izgledati na krjau isto kao d asi radio kružni  <img border="0" src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=5541">Tamron</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4239<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23&nbsp;Veljaca&nbsp;2011 at 18:47<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by The Phoenix" alt="Originally posted by The Phoenix" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>The Phoenix wrote:</strong><br /><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Tamron" alt="Originally posted by Tamron" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Tamron wrote:</strong><br /><br />Možda je malo offtopic, ali je isto vezano <br />za temu. Može li <br />se u isto vrijeme raditi žešci crobni (da bi se izgubio <br />stomak) i trening utezima za masu (da se ne objesi koža <br />na <br />rukama, nogama i leđima).<br />Je li to kontraproduktivno i ima li uopce to smisla?<br /></td></tr></table> Naravno da može, tak se i radi zajedno da bi <br />ocuvao mišicnu masu jer samo crobno po sebi znaci i <br />gubitak mišicne mase...... S tim da je crobni sad širok <br />pojam i to može bit bilo kaj, i nesto visokog itenziteta <br />kaj i nije crobni rad, al nebitno.......</td></tr></table> <br /><br />Pod crobni mislim vijacu 20+ min.]]>
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   <title>Zatezanje :   Iluvatar wrote:  Tamron wrote:Mo&#382;da...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=5541">Tamron</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4239<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23&nbsp;Veljaca&nbsp;2011 at 18:47<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Iluvatar" alt="Originally posted by Iluvatar" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Iluvatar wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Tamron" alt="Originally posted by Tamron" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Tamron wrote:</strong><br /><br />Možda je malo offtopic, <br />ali je isto vezano za temu. Može li <br />se u isto vrijeme raditi žešci crobni (da bi se izgubio <br />stomak) i trening utezima za masu (da se ne objesi koža <br />na <br />rukama, nogama i leđima).<br />Je li to kontraproduktivno i ima li uopce to smisla?<br /></td></tr></table> <br /><br />tehnicki ne možeš graditi i mišice i salo u isto vrijeme, <br />ali nešto što bi išlo pod tvoj opis najbolje je trening <br />nekakav kružni trening, pa recimo s girjama i <br />tako</td></tr></table> <br /><br />Kružni trening za masu?]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1167">Iluvatar</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4239<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23&nbsp;Veljaca&nbsp;2011 at 18:43<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Tamron" alt="Originally posted by Tamron" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Tamron wrote:</strong><br /><br />Možda je malo offtopic, ali je isto vezano za temu. Može li <br />se u isto vrijeme raditi žešci crobni (da bi se izgubio <br />stomak) i trening utezima za masu (da se ne objesi koža na <br />rukama, nogama i leđima).<br />Je li to kontraproduktivno i ima li uopce to smisla?</td></tr></table> <br /><br />tehnicki ne možeš graditi i mišice i salo u isto vrijeme, ali nešto što bi išlo pod tvoj opis najbolje je trening nekakav kružni trening, pa recimo s girjama i tako]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4674">The Phoenix</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4239<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23&nbsp;Veljaca&nbsp;2011 at 15:50<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Tamron" alt="Originally posted by Tamron" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Tamron wrote:</strong><br /><br />Možda je malo offtopic, ali je isto vezano za temu. Može li <br>se u isto vrijeme raditi žešci crobni (da bi se izgubio <br>stomak) i trening utezima za masu (da se ne objesi koža na <br>rukama, nogama i leđima).<br>Je li to kontraproduktivno i ima li uopce to smisla?</td></tr></table> <br><br>Naravno da može, tak se i radi zajedno da bi ocuvao mišicnu masu jer samo crobno po sebi znaci i gubitak mišicne mase...... <br>S tim da je crobni sad širok pojam i to može bit bilo kaj, i nesto visokog itenziteta kaj i nije crobni rad, al nebitno.......<br>]]>
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