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   <title>barbell complex? :    ThornOfFaith wrote:  tare...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=361">dalila</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2552<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14&nbsp;Travanj&nbsp;2010 at 22:20<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by ThornOfFaith" alt="Originally posted by ThornOfFaith" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>ThornOfFaith wrote:</strong><br /><br /><p><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by tare" alt="Originally posted by tare" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>tare wrote:</strong><br /><br /><br>Ne znam koliko pojacava samu masu misica, al biciklo dokazano jaca kontrakcijsku moc kvadricepsa i dobra je vjezba za polozaj koljena,<img src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"><br></td></tr></table> &nbsp;</p><p>Ma sve 5 al nema davoru koristi od toga kad on želi nabildovati kvadove <img src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"></p></td></tr></table> <br><br>Pa..neka ih builda radi izgleda..a vozi biciklu radi zdravlja koljena...<img src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0"><img src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0"><img src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0"><br>]]>
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   <title>barbell complex? :   tare wrote:Ne znam koliko pojacava...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1072">ThornOfFaith</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2552<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14&nbsp;Travanj&nbsp;2010 at 21:47<br /><br /><P><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by tare" alt="Originally posted by tare" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>tare wrote:</strong><br /><br /><BR>Ne znam koliko pojacava samu masu misica, al biciklo dokazano jaca kontrakcijsku moc kvadricepsa i dobra je vjezba za polozaj koljena,<IMG src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"><BR></td></tr></table> &nbsp;</P><P>Ma sve 5 al nema davoru koristi od toga kad on želi nabildovati kvadove <IMG src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"></P>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 21:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>barbell complex? :    ThornOfFaith wrote:  davor23...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=62">tare</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2552<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14&nbsp;Travanj&nbsp;2010 at 21:37<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by ThornOfFaith" alt="Originally posted by ThornOfFaith" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>ThornOfFaith wrote:</strong><br /><br /><p><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by davor23" alt="Originally posted by davor23" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>davor23 wrote:</strong><br /><br />&nbsp; A rekli su mi vec da moram toliko ojacat kvadriceps da preuzme ulogu ligamenta.. oni su mi rekli da bicikla najbolja.. ali mi se cini da to nije dovoljno..<img src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"><br></td></tr></table> &nbsp;</p><p>Pogledaj malo bolje profi bicikliste, kakve su im noge? Jel ti djeluju jako? A koliko opterecenje ti možeš podesiti na biciklu? Gotovo nedovoljno da kvad ojaca..zapravo malo jacu vožnju nece ni osjetiti.</p><p>Slican si slucaj ko i moj frend, sam što njega pere strah od operacije jer mu je doktor rekao da može imat komplikacija iza i da je mlad za tako šta...</p><p>&nbsp;</p></td></tr></table> <br><br>Ne znam koliko pojacava samu masu misica, al biciklo dokazano jaca kontrakcijsku moc kvadricepsa i dobra je vjezba za polozaj koljena,<img src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"><br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 21:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>barbell complex? :    ThornOfFaith wrote:  davor23...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1754">davor23</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2552<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07&nbsp;Travanj&nbsp;2010 at 18:21<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by ThornOfFaith" alt="Originally posted by ThornOfFaith" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>ThornOfFaith wrote:</strong><br /><br /><p><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by davor23" alt="Originally posted by davor23" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>davor23 wrote:</strong><br /><br />&nbsp; A rekli su mi vec da moram toliko ojacat kvadriceps da preuzme ulogu ligamenta.. oni su mi rekli da bicikla najbolja.. ali mi se cini da to nije dovoljno..<img src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"><br></td></tr></table> &nbsp;</p><p>Pogledaj malo bolje profi bicikliste, kakve su im noge? Jel ti djeluju jako? A koliko opterecenje ti možeš podesiti na biciklu? Gotovo nedovoljno da kvad ojaca..zapravo malo jacu vožnju nece ni osjetiti.</p><p>Slican si slucaj ko i moj frend, sam što njega pere strah od operacije jer mu je doktor rekao da može imat komplikacija iza i da je mlad za tako šta...</p></td></tr></table> <br>haha... meni kad doktori tako kazu, ja se smijem.. ja bi za svaki vrag legao na stol pa nek rezu.. tako mi je pred 3 god malo natekao vrat.. pa jos malo jace.. i kazu doktori da ce proci za 3mj, no ja nisam htio cekat, i isao radije na operaciju i imam oziljak ispod brade od 6cm, ali barem se odmah rijesio tereta<img src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0"><img src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0"><br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 18:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>barbell complex? :   davor23 wrote: A rekli su mi...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1072">ThornOfFaith</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2552<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07&nbsp;Travanj&nbsp;2010 at 16:44<br /><br /><P><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by davor23" alt="Originally posted by davor23" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>davor23 wrote:</strong><br /><br />&nbsp; A rekli su mi vec da moram toliko ojacat kvadriceps da preuzme ulogu ligamenta.. oni su mi rekli da bicikla najbolja.. ali mi se cini da to nije dovoljno..<IMG src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"><BR></td></tr></table> &nbsp;</P><P>Pogledaj malo bolje profi bicikliste, kakve su im noge? Jel ti djeluju jako? A koliko opterecenje ti možeš podesiti na biciklu? Gotovo nedovoljno da kvad ojaca..zapravo malo jacu vožnju nece ni osjetiti.</P><P>Slican si slucaj ko i moj frend, sam što njega pere strah od operacije jer mu je doktor rekao da može imat komplikacija iza i da je mlad za tako šta...</P><P>&nbsp;</P>]]>
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   <title>barbell complex? :    zmaj wrote:mozda bolje proc...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=62">tare</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2552<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07&nbsp;Travanj&nbsp;2010 at 12:46<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by zmaj" alt="Originally posted by zmaj" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>zmaj wrote:</strong><br /><br />&nbsp;mozda bolje proc i tu rehabilitaciju nego ovako se patit do kraja zivota nesmis ovo,nesmis ono</td></tr></table> <br><br>Ma imat problema sa koljenima stvarno jeste zahebana stvar, ali ti ostaje bezbroj mogucnosi baviti se normalno sportom bez ikakvih posljedica i bolova...<br>Ja npr. otkad imam problema s tim prešao sam na plivanje i biciklo od crobnih treninga, HIIT trcanje samo ponekad uradim(š put sedmicno), i nemam problema nikakvih...<br>Najvažnije je ojacati muskulaturu kvadricepsa za jako i stabilno koljeno !<br><br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>barbell complex? : mozda bolje proc i tu rehabilitaciju...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1458">zmaj</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2552<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07&nbsp;Travanj&nbsp;2010 at 12:08<br /><br />&nbsp;mozda bolje proc i tu rehabilitaciju nego ovako se patit do kraja zivota nesmis ovo,nesmis ono]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1754">davor23</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2552<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07&nbsp;Travanj&nbsp;2010 at 10:33<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by tare" alt="Originally posted by tare" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>tare wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Furai" alt="Originally posted by Furai" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Furai wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by dalila" alt="Originally posted by dalila" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>dalila wrote:</strong><br /><br />Pa ima šanse...ali ne u preofi nogometu....za to je ipak potrebna rekonstrukcija prednjeg križnog ligameta...i rehabilitacija od minimum 6mj....;)<br><br>&nbsp;NO...rekreativno bavljenje nogometom je moguce...ako imaš jako snažne mišice ....quad i stražnju ložu...dosta vježbi propriocepsije i pliometrjeske treninge ubaciti.... i naravno..ipak izbjegavati ta nagla zaustavljanja...koliko god je moguce....u nogometu, rukometu, košarci.....<br></td></tr></table> <br>Dobro, mozda rekreativno sa izbjegavanjem svih naglih pokreta; start-stop, nagle izmjene smjera i to. Mada kazem, poznajem par ljudi koji su vadili prednji krizni i stvarno se ne mogu bavit sportom, koliko god ima jaki kvadovi bili, koljeno jednostavno ne mogu pratit.<br></td></tr></table> <br><br>Normalno da ne mogu.<br>Sta bi drzalo kosti skupa u koljenu pri tolikom opterecenju?<br>Bez ligamenata nema šanse, kod nogometaša se uradi implatant.<br></td></tr></table> <br>Meni su htjeli stavljat implatant.. objasnjavali su mi kako se to zavida nesto u kosti, bla bla.. vec sam bio zakazan u š. mj 2009. za operaciju, ali odustao.. dugotrajna je rehabilitacija od toga<img src="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"><br>]]>
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   <title>barbell complex? :    Furai wrote:   dalila wrote:Pa...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=62">tare</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2552<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07&nbsp;Travanj&nbsp;2010 at 09:41<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Furai" alt="Originally posted by Furai" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Furai wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by dalila" alt="Originally posted by dalila" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>dalila wrote:</strong><br /><br />Pa ima šanse...ali ne u preofi nogometu....za to je ipak potrebna rekonstrukcija prednjeg križnog ligameta...i rehabilitacija od minimum 6mj....;)<br><br>&nbsp;NO...rekreativno bavljenje nogometom je moguce...ako imaš jako snažne mišice ....quad i stražnju ložu...dosta vježbi propriocepsije i pliometrjeske treninge ubaciti.... i naravno..ipak izbjegavati ta nagla zaustavljanja...koliko god je moguce....u nogometu, rukometu, košarci.....<br></td></tr></table> <br>Dobro, mozda rekreativno sa izbjegavanjem svih naglih pokreta; start-stop, nagle izmjene smjera i to. Mada kazem, poznajem par ljudi koji su vadili prednji krizni i stvarno se ne mogu bavit sportom, koliko god ima jaki kvadovi bili, koljeno jednostavno ne mogu pratit.<br></td></tr></table> <br><br>Normalno da ne mogu.<br>Sta bi drzalo kosti skupa u koljenu pri tolikom opterecenju?<br>Bez ligamenata nema šanse, kod nogometaša se uradi implatant.<br>]]>
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   <title>barbell complex? :    dalila wrote:Pa ima &#353;anse...ali...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.fitness.com.hr/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3180">Furai</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2552<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07&nbsp;Travanj&nbsp;2010 at 08:23<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by dalila" alt="Originally posted by dalila" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>dalila wrote:</strong><br /><br />Pa ima šanse...ali ne u preofi nogometu....za to je ipak potrebna rekonstrukcija prednjeg križnog ligameta...i rehabilitacija od minimum 6mj....;)<br><br>&nbsp;NO...rekreativno bavljenje nogometom je moguce...ako imaš jako snažne mišice ....quad i stražnju ložu...dosta vježbi propriocepsije i pliometrjeske treninge ubaciti.... i naravno..ipak izbjegavati ta nagla zaustavljanja...koliko god je moguce....u nogometu, rukometu, košarci.....<br></td></tr></table> <br>Dobro, mozda rekreativno sa izbjegavanjem svih naglih pokreta; start-stop, nagle izmjene smjera i to. Mada kazem, poznajem par ljudi koji su vadili prednji krizni i stvarno se ne mogu bavit sportom, koliko god ima jaki kvadovi bili, koljeno jednostavno ne mogu pratit.<br>]]>
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